[vipmk]

Hi,
We have the front and back Collision Avoidance options enabled in our 2023 Outlander PHEV, yet, there have been several forward instances where I really felt the system should have engaged the brakes, or at least even given us a warning beep or symbol pop up, but nothing. Just recently, during stop and go traffic on our queens way in Ottawa, an SUV just ahead, slammed on it's brakes to stop, from about 90 kms/hr, to which I had to slam my brakes on very quickly, stopping 5 feet away from their bumper - this should have definitely triggered something in the forward collision avoidance system (btw, the car was completely clean with no obstructions on the any sensors). NOTE: In Accessory mode only, I know the FCA indicator symbols are working, because in Accessory mode, (car no started), it shows the forward/backward indicators symbols as being off and when the car starts, they turn off (because I have enabled them in the settings). Now, I know some of the sensing features are working, as I have used the Intelligent Cruise control, which works really well to slow the vehicle and in one instance, apply the brakes a little harder due to a car in front slowing quickly. This was not the collision avoidance system, directly speaking (even though a brake is a brake is a brake).

I've put this question to the dealer, but they are not able to help as they said any testing they'd do, would be the same that our screen would show (really?). So, anyone think their FCA may not be working properly? Thanks

 

[DibbyDibbyDJ]

The FCM system works best at below 60kmh, where it could avoid a collision.

Above 60 kmh, the system will work, but will only reduce the impact, And even when you are braking it can assist you wihout you knowing.

As it employs a Radar in the detection system, not all vehicles have the same signature, and different colours will have different sigantures to an exact same vehicle of a differing colour.

If the FCM is not working you will get an idication of that during the trip.

To get FCM to work, to test its operation is not easy, and it would involve some reckless driving, so best not try to test it.

 

[Bubka]

Hi,
We have the front and back Collision Avoidance options enabled in our 2023 Outlander PHEV, yet, there have been several forward instances where I really felt the system should have engaged the brakes, or at least even given us a warning beep or symbol pop up, but nothing. Just recently, during stop and go traffic on our queens way in Ottawa, an SUV just ahead, slammed on it's brakes to stop, from about 90 kms/hr, to which I had to slam my brakes on very quickly, stopping 5 feet away from their bumper - this should have definitely triggered something in the forward collision avoidance system (btw, the car was completely clean with no obstructions on the any sensors). NOTE: In Accessory mode only, I know the FCA indicator symbols are working, because in Accessory mode, (car no started), it shows the forward/backward indicators symbols as being off and when the car starts, they turn off (because I have enabled them in the settings). Now, I know some of the sensing features are working, as I have used the Intelligent Cruise control, which works really well to slow the vehicle and in one instance, apply the brakes a little harder due to a car in front slowing quickly. This was not the collision avoidance system, directly speaking (even though a brake is a brake is a brake).

I've put this question to the dealer, but they are not able to help as they said any testing they'd do, would be the same that our screen would show (really?). So, anyone think their FCA may not be working properly? Thanks

Hi,
I did not test Collision Avoidance yet and hopefully never will , but I can say Cruise Control uses the same radar / sensors ( you correct me if wrong ) and it works fine when slowing down / brakes stronger when needed / following dinstance... This is what I tested .

 

[vipmk]

The FCM system works best at below 60kmh, where it could avoid a collision.

Above 60 kmh, the system will work, but will only reduce the impact, And even when you are braking it can assist you wihout you knowing.

As it employs a Radar in the detection system, not all vehicles have the same signature, and different colours will have different sigantures to an exact same vehicle of a differing colour.

If the FCM is not working you will get an idication of that during the trip.

To get FCM to work, to test its operation is not easy, and it would involve some reckless driving, so best not try to test it.

I hear what you're saying and as stated, the adaptive cruise is working, but outside of cruise control, there has been nothing happening in the 4 months we've owned this to even give a hint that the front collision avoidance is active (except for the enabling screen). There has not been any sense of even a mild breaking at anytime - this BTW, was one of the reasons we bought this car, as it's just one of those extra safe guards the distracted human brain could benefit from. In any event, thought I'd check in with the forum to see if anyone had extra insight outside of the manual references. What I'll try in the next week or so, is a parking lot test with some cardboard signage (as someone had used in another vehicle test of the avoidance system). Thanks.

 

[PJmacgee]

Tangentially related, but I think the manual states the car will supposedly only apply "up to 40%" of maximum braking power. At first I was shocked and disappointed, but that might actually be for the best. My old Subaru would FREAK OUT sometimes and apply all the brakes for nothing, or worse, cut engine power when I was trying to pull into fast traffic. So, a less intrusive system might be better overall.

I haven't noticed the Outlander taking control yet, but I only have a few hundred miles of gentle driving so far...only a matter of time before I find out if its collision avoidance system is paying attention though!! haha

 

[Hasenphever]

I've had the thing beep at me when too close, the most often tends to be advanced left turns with the car in-front decelerating quickly. Hope you get it sorted out.

 

[DibbyDibbyDJ]

It constantly self checks and cycles to ensure operation. if it doesnt appear to be working its likely your driving style is safe enough in the first place.

We have tried to recreate scenarios to test operation, and had no sucess with cardboard boxes, even very large ones, as the surface absorbs radra signals.

the only sucess we had was actuall driving at parked cars in quiet roads and being able to swerve at the last second to avoid. Not the best practice, but it gives you an idea.