something up there i think im getting around 12 hrs . mine is a 2023 also so i really haven't had time to figure it all out . sounds like something off with your eves or onboard charger . if you can find another eves to use , maybe from dealer , just to check that it would be a good start .
2023 PHEV level 1 charge times
New owner of a 2023 PHEV here. Had it about a week. The car seems to take 19 hours to charge from empty on a 110v 15amp circuit using the oem level 1 evse. I've tried different outlets, different houses, different lengths of wiring from the breaker, different ages of wiring from recent (last 2 years) to older, nothing else plugged into any of the outlets, and the draw is the same in all instances: 1.1kWh or 10 amps.
I get the same result when using a different oem level 1 evse so I believe it's the vehicle that is drawing at this level.
Wondering what others are experiencing from a regular 15amp household outlet?
I get the same result when using a different oem level 1 evse so I believe it's the vehicle that is drawing at this level.
Wondering what others are experiencing from a regular 15amp household outlet?
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My 2023 PHEV takes about 8 hours for full charge from 30amp 240volt level 2 charger installed in my garage
That makes sense. With that power, the charger is drawing its max rate of 3kWh. I'm still not sure why mine is only drawing 1.1kW or 10amps when it could be drawing 1.3kW or 12 amps on a 110v 15amp circuit.My 2023 PHEV takes about 8 hours for full charge from 30amp 240volt level 2 charger installed in my garage
Were you able to plug in elsewhere ? Or try another charge cable?
I plugged into 3 different outlets at different locations. 2 different level 1 evse chargers and all charge at some rate, about 10amps/1.1kWh.Were you able to plug in elsewhere ? Or try another charge cable?
Maybe that's the limit of the oem chargers? Could there be a charge time reduction using something like the lectron 120volt 16 amp charger on a regular outlet?
I don't think so, the oem evse's can go up to 12amps. I think the car is limiting the draw. Maybe its the colder temps and it's using part of the charge to keep the battery at a decent temp?
i think all vehicle batteries charge slower in cold weather . it got cold recently here and ive noticed mine getting slower .
My 2023 PHEV when I first initially connect it to the charger it will say about 22 hours but it really takes about 16 hours give or take, it makes small adjustments to the time. (On a 110v)
New owner of a 2023 PHEV here. Had it about a week. The car seems to take 19 hours to charge from empty on a 110v 15amp circuit using the oem level 1 evse. I've tried different outlets, different houses, different lengths of wiring from the breaker, different ages of wiring from recent (last 2 years) to older, nothing else plugged into any of the outlets, and the draw is the same in all instances: 1.1kWh or 10 amps.
I get the same result when using a different oem level 1 evse so I believe it's the vehicle that is drawing at this level.
Wondering what others are experiencing from a regular 15amp household outlet?
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Temperature does make a difference. In my garage 0-5 F takes about 15 hrs to go from 0 to 38 mi range at 30-32 F takes about 12 hrs on the factory 110.
Can you tell us please what level 2 charger you purchased and are you happy with that charger. Maybe you can post here web link for charger. I am looking to buy one but not sure for Mitsubishi OEM requirements, all I can see says 16 amp.My 2023 PHEV takes about 8 hours for full charge from 30amp 240volt level 2 charger installed in my garage
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16 amp is a level 1 EVSE, which is just the cord with a J1772 plug. A level 2 charger should be at least 30 amp and is the wall mounted unit plus cord with a J1772 plug. The Outlander PHEV is the actual charger that draws electricity from the plug. The Outlander's max draw on the J1772 is 3kWh so don't feel like you need to get a level 2 that can provide more because the Outlander won't charge any faster. The higher amp level 2s are good for EVs with a higher draw rate, or even the top trim RAV4 PHEV that can draw 6 kWh.Can you tell us please what level 2 charger you purchased and are you happy with that charger. Maybe you can post here web link for charger. I am looking to buy one but not sure for Mitsubishi OEM requirements, all I can see says 16 amp.
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Mitsubishi level 1 charge is 12 amp on 110v , and level 2 should be 16 amp on 220-240 which pooling 3kwh see pictures OEM charger 12 amp16 amp is a level 1 EVSE, which is just the cord with a J1772 plug. A level 2 charger should be at least 30 amp and is the wall mounted unit plus cord with a J1772 plug. The Outlander PHEV is the actual charger that draws electricity from the plug. The Outlander's max draw on the J1772 is 3kWh so don't feel like you need to get a level 2 that can provide more because the Outlander won't charge any faster. The higher amp level 2s are good for EVs with a higher draw rate, or even the top trim RAV4 PHEV that can draw 6 kWh.
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220-240V does not put out only 16amps. A 16amp EVSE is the limit on a 20amp circuit, but will max out to 12amps if plugged into a 15 amp circuit. 220-240v is basically twinned 110-120v circuits, so will max out at 30 amps but will likely max out to a 24 amp draw (the car will draw 80% of max, which is standard).Mitsubishi level 1 charge is 12 amp on 110v , and level 2 should be 16 amp on 220-240 which pooling 3kwh see pictures OEM charger 12 amp
The level 1 EVSE from Mitsubishi is max 12amp as per the picture. When plugged into a 110V circuit this is about 1.3 kWh.
The onboard charger on the Outlander maxes out at 16 amps, so even with a potential of 24 amp draw capacity on the evse the vehicle will limit it to 16 to the battery220-240V does not put out only 16amps. A 16amp EVSE is the limit on a 20amp circuit, but will max out to 12amps if plugged into a 15 amp circuit. 220-240v is basically twinned 110-120v circuits, so will max out at 30 amps but will likely max out to a 24 amp draw (the car will draw 80% of max, which is standard).
The level 1 EVSE from Mitsubishi is max 12amp as per the picture. When plugged into a 110V circuit this is about 1.3 kWh.
I just dont want to overload car with too strong charger because it is not needed.220-240V does not put out only 16amps. A 16amp EVSE is the limit on a 20amp circuit, but will max out to 12amps if plugged into a 15 amp circuit. 220-240v is basically twinned 110-120v circuits, so will max out at 30 amps but will likely max out to a 24 amp draw (the car will draw 80% of max, which is standard).
The level 1 EVSE from Mitsubishi is max 12amp as per the picture. When plugged into a 110V circuit this is about 1.3 kWh.
See pictures of charger I am planning to buy with 16 amp you have ever 3.5 kwh ( more than Outlander capability speed )
I would like to hear from people already installed what they have to say from real life.
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I stand corrected, the max 3.7kW is 15-16amps on 240V, thanks for posting that clarification!The onboard charger on the Outlander maxes out at 16 amps, so even with a potential of 24 amp draw capacity on the evse the vehicle will limit it to 16 to the battery
That is not a level 2 charger. It is a plug that is compatible with the level 2 wall charger. On its own plugged into a 110V 15 amp circuit it will max out at 12amps. It can allow a 16amp draw if that 110V circuit is 20amps. There are a few of those on Amazon but they don't really tell you what is needed to get 16amps into a vehicle. if your household 110v circuit is on 20 amps this will maximize the Level 1 EVSE capabilities before having a Level 2 EVSE wall unit installed.I just dont want to overload car with too strong charger because it is not needed.
See pictures of charger I am planning to buy with 16 amp you have ever 3.5 kwh ( more than Outlander capability speed )
I would like to hear from people already installed what they have to say from real life.
Sorry I am not electrician but I see here this is level 2 charger using 240 v and it has adapter if you want to use it at 110v household as a level 1. This is how I understand.That is not a level 2 charger. It is a plug that is compatible with the level 2 wall charger. On its own plugged into a 110V 15 amp circuit it will max out at 12amps. It can allow a 16amp draw if that 110V circuit is 20amps. There are a few of those on Amazon but they don't really tell you what is needed to get 16amps into a vehicle. if your household 110v circuit is on 20 amps this will maximize the Level 1 EVSE capabilities before having a Level 2 EVSE wall unit installed.
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