[friesenmj]

I'm curious if I could use my Tesla charger with a J1772 adapter and plug it into my 2023 Outlander PHEV. Based on the thread above, it would that this should work and only 16amps at 3.7Kw/hr will be drawn off the Tesla-F1772 plug. Does this sound correct to everyone?

 

[slick]

dont take this as gospel but i have heard that it would not work as they lock in different ways .

 

[PJmacgee]

The "Morec 16A" dual-voltage EVSE was linked earlier in the thread and it reminded me something I wanted to ask: the EVSE that Mitsubishi includes with 2022/2023 Outlander PHEV, has anyone tried it on 240V? DON'T TRY THIS with yours!! But, just wondering if anyone knows either way?

Reason I ask is because the 12A EVSE that came with my Bolt is labeled (for US market) "120V only", but is actually designed (for international markets, presumably) to accept both voltages. Which is super handy because with a very simple plug adapter (and a 240V outlet), you DOUBLE your charging speed (from 1.4kW to 2.8kW). I use it like that sometimes (on road trips usually) and it works perfectly, no over-heating, etc.

Morec 16A EV Charger Level 1-2 NEMA6-20P with Adapterfor NEMA 5-15, 100V-240V, Portable EVSE SAE J1772 Plug 6m (20 feet), Home Electric Vehicle Charging Station Compatible with All EV Cars : Amazon.ca: Automotive

Morec 16A EV Charger Level 1-2 NEMA6-20P with Adapterfor NEMA 5-15, 100V-240V, Portable EVSE SAE J1772 Plug 6m (20 feet), Home Electric Vehicle Charging Station Compatible with All EV Cars : Amazon.ca: Automotive

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i missed all the discussion earlier, but it sounds like there was some confusion about EVSEs. But basically the car will only use what it can (up to 3.3kW for the Outlander?), so you can't "hurt" the car with a bigger charger (7.8kW or 10kW or whatever your EVSE is rated for). For smaller EVSEs, like 12A or 16A models, the biggest problem is with your home wiring - 12A is pushing it for a regular 15A circuit (same for 16A on 20A circuit), esp in older homes, wires might get a little warm over a 12hr period of constant draw, wire insulators will break down quicker, etc. Using a 240V outlet (with proper wire guage, on 30-50A breaker) is much safer and doubles your charge speed.

That makes sense. With that power, the charger is drawing its max rate of 3kWh. I'm still not sure why mine is only drawing 1.1kW or 10amps when it could be drawing

Did you ever figure this out? Maybe a setting you can change in the car? I know my other car (BEV) lets you choose 8A or 12A when using L1 charger. It defaults to 8A to minimize stress on house wiring, so you have to force it to use 12A (if you know the house's wiring is good for it). Maybe Outlander defaults to 10A, and you have to tell it 12A is okay...?

 

[friesenmj]

dont take this as gospel but i have heard that it would not work as they lock in different ways .

Thank you! I'll let you know what I find out...I ordered an adapter and if it works, I'll post the model# and source.. BTW, right now my wife is getting 53eMPG in our new 2023 Outlander PHEV for use over the past 2 weeks after leaving the dealer... and it's winter so I would expect this to go up a little in warmer weather...

 

[slick]

Thank you! I'll let you know what I find out...I ordered an adapter and if it works, I'll post the model# and source.. BTW, right now my wife is getting 53eMPG in our new 2023 Outlander PHEV for use over the past 2 weeks after leaving the dealer... and it's winter so I would expect this to go up a little in warmer weather...

great love to hear what you find out . be great to hear from someone on here with this vehicle who actually used it instead of dated ramblings on the internet . love to also know how they charge in Canada by time / kwh and how much ? i know ya cant help with that but im sure someone can . right now the chargers i do see around charge by time and at a rate witch does not make any sense to use . never actually thought of Tesla though .

looking forward to what you find out .

 

[Hasenphever]

Did you ever figure this out? Maybe a setting you can change in the car? I know my other car (BEV) lets you choose 8A or 12A when using L1 charger. It defaults to 8A to minimize stress on house wiring, so you have to force it to use 12A (if you know the house's wiring is good for it). Maybe Outlander defaults to 10A, and you have to tell it 12A is okay...?

I haven't, although the dealer says it's because its winter and when its warmer more energy should go into the drive battery reducing the charge time. There is no setting in the car, it figure out the draw all on its own. The oem EVSE also does not have a variable amp setting.

 

[Bubka]

My charging speed at home with level 2 charger 240 v at 16 amp is 3.5 kw per hour to about 80 % than it slow down . This is probable battery protection set by Mitsubishi.
I did try level 3 charger in Collingwood, ON last week and I think there is no point to use it because they charge $20 canadian per hour at 50 kwh charging station or $15 per hour at 25kwh station. Also charging was interrupted 3 times. I was seating in the car because it was testing and restarted charging. Level 3 charger also slowing down after 70 % reached.

 

[friesenmj]

great love to hear what you find out . be great to hear from someone on here with this vehicle who actually used it instead of dated ramblings on the internet . love to also know how they charge in Canada by time / kwh and how much ? i know ya cant help with that but im sure someone can . right now the chargers i do see around charge by time and at a rate witch does not make any sense to use . never actually thought of Tesla though .

looking forward to what you find out .

So I got the adapter yesterday and just tried it with the Tesla charger and it seems to work; the Outlander app on my phone estimates about 6 hours for a full charge although after 1 hour I went from 0 to 14 miles. I believe though the charge does slow down at the end so it very well could be 6 hours. Right now my wife is still on her first tank of gas, it's been 3 weeks to the day since we picked the car up from the dealer. I will admit, we purchased the car since it's range would be sufficient for my wife's commute to work which is 22 miles round trip. We are at about 57 eMGP at the moment with about 1/4 of the gas tank remaining. So, overall, fairly happy with the experience so far. Here's the model from Amazon for the adapter we used:

Amazon-HUUPRO Tesla to J1772 adapter

I chose this adapter since it got good reviews and the Lectron model, which seems fairly popular, seemed to have specs that made it difficult to plug into other EVs based on the reviews. The HUUPRO model seems to fit without any issues. I'd be interested in seeing if others try this and have a similar experience...

 

[PJmacgee]

Nice, thanks for being a guinea pig, haha. If you're satisfied with it (doesn't burn your house down), I might pick one up too, for road trip contingencies in my Bolt. Many hotels and B&Bs are adding Tesla "destination chargers" lately, which I think are just L2 chargers with their stupid proprietary (NA-only) plug.

 

[Hasenphever]

Good stuff, thanks for posting up. What was the cost of the Tesla charger?

 

[friesenmj]

Good stuff, thanks for posting up. What was the cost of the Tesla charger?

Good stuff, thanks for posting up. What was the cost of the Tesla charger?

$230 US is the one I have, Tesla Wall Charger

 

[slick]

So I got the adapter yesterday and just tried it with the Tesla charger and it seems to work; the Outlander app on my phone estimates about 6 hours for a full charge although after 1 hour I went from 0 to 14 miles. I believe though the charge does slow down at the end so it very well could be 6 hours. Right now my wife is still on her first tank of gas, it's been 3 weeks to the day since we picked the car up from the dealer. I will admit, we purchased the car since it's range would be sufficient for my wife's commute to work which is 22 miles round trip. We are at about 57 eMGP at the moment with about 1/4 of the gas tank remaining. So, overall, fairly happy with the experience so far. Here's the model from Amazon for the adapter we used:

Amazon-HUUPRO Tesla to J1772 adapter

I chose this adapter since it got good reviews and the Lectron model, which seems fairly popular, seemed to have specs that made it difficult to plug into other EVs based on the reviews. The HUUPRO model seems to fit without any issues. I'd be interested in seeing if others try this and have a similar experience...

wow thats great stuff i and i think we all appreciate that very much . thanks a lot .

 

[friesenmj]

Nice, thanks for being a guinea pig, haha. If you're satisfied with it (doesn't burn your house down), I might pick one up too, for road trip contingencies in my Bolt. Many hotels and B&Bs are adding Tesla "destination chargers" lately, which I think are just L2 chargers with their stupid proprietary (NA-only) plug.

Just curious, I've never used the Tesla destination charges, are they expensive to use? Wondering in case I ever take a longer trip with the Outlander PHEV where I can now use the Tesla adapter...thx!

 

[PJmacgee]

They are usually free (but not always), provided for the guests of restaurants and lodging places (usually places far from a supercharger). Just a public L2 charger with a [north american] tesla plug.

 

[friesenmj]

They are usually free (but not always), provided for the guests of restaurants and lodging places (usually places far from a supercharger). Just a public L2 charger with a [north american] tesla plug.

Cool, thx for the info, good to know....